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When the voice of reason ceases to be a deafening roar in the ears of the many and becomes but a whisper in the minds of the few, Chaos and insanity are left to grow and mature. It is experience, not age that leads to wisdom. With that wisdom comes responsibility. That responsibility can be burdensome especially when the view is tainted by the "pleasure principle.", Once wisdom is attained, invariably, that wisdom is used to control. To master one's self, then, to subjugate others. All control is an illusion. To control is to hold water in a colander. Crazy - an individual de lief against that, of a society. Thus begins social marginality, it's all downhill from there. When there is only an army of one, no matter how formidable, the battle is short and insignificant. When truth takes a back seat to assumptions, which fit the rationale of the executioner only the innocent suffer. Those who do not realize self destruction through self rationalization, will live in ignorance of self potential. There is none so blind as he who did not see.
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Okay, I had to read that twice to fully understand that, but I get it now. And now the question is, what is experienced and inexperienced? Can that really be measured?
While I agree that rationalization is very valuable, one should not dismiss the value of acting upon emotion. Anybody who has taken the Myers-Briggs type indicator knows that humans are essentially divided into two camps: thinkers and feelers. This does not mean that feelers cannot be rational, nor that thinkers cannot act upon emotion. But expecting everyone to process the world the way you do is ludicrous. Not everybody oon this board is going to be swayed by logic, and not everyone is going to be loyal to you regardless of what you say. We need to keep this in mind when trying to understand the posts of others and attempting to convince them to see our point of view.
'None so blinds as he who did not see' I quote and ask: did he choose not to see or he could not see because sensation and perception of that sensation is based in the mind and limited by the abilities of the mind. Is 'not seeing' the fruit of a delibarate and free choice or an inevitable situation because of how the human brain works? How much of what we don't see is our own faul and how much an inevitable event of being human?
Once wisdom is attained, invariably, that wisdom is used to control.
I think this is a fallible argument. This is simply an opinion, not a concrete fact, and I choose to disagree, because wisdom does not always lead to control, nor imagined or desired control.
The entire post is fallible. It is filled with nothing but assertions which have not been proven or disproven. To say that an absence of reason begets insanity and chaos is just as much opinion as to say that an absence of intuition will result in danger and destruction. Take his post for what it is. I doubt most on this board would wholeheartedly agree with ALL of his claims.
Wow blink183. I didn't feel like picking apart the whole post, so I simply used one example. But very well said.
When the voice of reason ceases to be a deafening roar in the ears of the many and becomes but a whisper in the minds of the few, Chaos and insanity are
left to grow and mature. For exsample, a child learning to tie his shoe, if not given proper instructions will become fustrated. If that child is made to continue his fusration will turn to anger. If this is repeated without the reason behind tieing the shoe, the child will at the sight of the shoe begin to cry. What are complexes? Once wisdom is attained, invariably, that wisdom is used to control. To master one's self, then,
to subjugate others. To understand that a short look in history is needed to valadate that sentense. When truth takes a back seat to assumptions, which fit the rationale of the executioner only the innocent suffer. Those who do not realize self destruction
through self rationalization, will live in ignorance of self potential. rationalization does not equal truth. That is what makes rationalization cbad. Just because you believe something does not make it true. For exsample, a man walking down the street who believes he is being followed,; is not justified in killing his pursuer. As for the last sentense, There is none so blind as he who did not see. This refers to self defeating acts such as rationalization. Because we cannot view our selves objectivily Some of the self defeating acts we carry out upon our selves could be prevented if we only took a step back to view our actions.
You have several issues mingled in this reply. First the issue of teaching the child to tie the shoes. Not all that is not taught turns into frustration and subsequently anger that will be outed with the child crying at the sight of the shoe. We, as humans have a reasoning mind that can create tools out of pieces of wood and stone. We also have in our brains the mirror neurons that allow our brain to learn by simply watching an action take place. Thus, the child can and will learn to tie it's show by either trial and error or by mere observation of how others tie their shoes. This means that not all complexes are based on situations that were not properly solved but could be on situations that we chose not to solve because we placed the burden of solving them, the responsibility if you like, on someone else's shoulders and that someone has bertayed us an let us down. So it is a matter of trust not a matter of learning. It might very well be that those 2 are intermingled as we have to learn to trust and trust what we learn. The second issue, is that of self destruction through rationalization. Our minds are made to rationalize. We have a bilogy and chemicals in our brain that compel us to rationalize becasue without doing that we can not survive. Everything we do every single moment is a continuous calculation of experience outcomes against odds. We base our next moves on those moves we have previously used in similar situations thus trying to recreate the same (positive) outcome. We have to rationalize or there will be no continuity in our experiences. Indeed, I will agree that rationalizing does not equal truth, but then again what is truth? Truth we have learned is our individual reality which is based on our experiences which are based on our perceptions. The problem is that perceptions are creations of our mind. What we see, hear, feel, etc are outcomes of how our brain decifered physical data from our environment, and placed that data into categories to create meaningful combinations. That is why reality and also truth are simply very individually based and what one person considers truth the other does not see as such. It is all, if I may say, in the eyes of the beholder. And talking about the eyes of the beholder, thought can blind those eyes. That is called the top-down perception (Gestalt) where the mind directs the eyes to see what the mind wants them to see. Star